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holy crap! check this video out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZosqAw8bE8M
hard to believe that is lil' David Wiggins Jr. ! Last video I saw of him, he was a toothpick! now he seems to be about the size of Wii Shane... watch out, I think DW Jr is gonna explode on the scene!

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Lil Wiggins

I don't know why they still allow him to compete at the Am level...he has won Open events and placed at many different events in Open but has refused cash so he can still play Am events....biggest bagger alive!!!

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Not really. Anybody can do

Not really. Anybody can do that. You could be 1020 and still play Am if you haven't accepted cash. It's events like this one and Am worlds that he does it for. Plus there are other players like him that are rated just as high and still play Am.

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geez

good god smokey, sand baggers play AS AN AM... your complaining about someone trying to accomplish a goal... and he is playing as a PRO in most events - how is playing in the OPEN division sand bagging? - you have me completely lost...

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When....

When you are a 997 rated player who has won many open divison tournaments and are placing in the cash at others including majors and then you go back to slaughter the amateur players because you want the trophy and your name on the list of champions. That is called major sandbagging.

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disagree

I completely disagree. I think you should be able to play ams as long as you want, until you win the US Championship or Worlds. Although, I do feel if you do win one or both of these events, it should be mandatory to move up.

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playin it smart

I don't think what he's doing would be called sandbagging (kinda). I have heard that he has a very promising baseball career ahead of him - if he chooses to pursue it - and is worried about his college eligibilty. As of now, the NCAA doesn't recognize DG as a collegiate sport (this is different from the PDGA sanctioned collegiate championships) so he would be good to go, but at the rate the sport is growing/progressing, DG could very well be recognized by the NCAA by the time he goes to college and therefore his baseball (and DG) eligibility would be forfeited if he turned Pro now. This is a very gray area.

Also, his dad runs a fairly successful DG business, in addition to his real job, that covers most, if not all, their traveling expenses so they really don't need the money he would take from cashing at those Pro tourneys.

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I think you should be allowed

I think you should be allowed to play ams as long as you want but you should expect a lot of verbal abuse from other players who really are ams.

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Ummm

WOW....lol...you all sound like baggers..lmao...I don't care if he has a billion dollars in his account. If you can win in the open division and are making the cash in that division you should not be allowed to play in a lower division. The original requirement of >975 would have meant he would not have been allowed to play but the new PDGA rules allow people to bag in a major way.

So you can play in the PDGA Am. Worlds and the USDGC in the same year for multiple years and not be a Pro. If you have made the USDGC's you are pro no if's, and's, or but's. How many other players can say yeah I have been to the USDGC's for the last 3 years and then say I also placed in the top 2 as Adv. Am. the last two years at the PDGA Am. Worlds and took first in the jr. division the five years before that. IMO that says I'm a complete bagger.

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Man this is really burning

Man this is really burning your toast and I don't understand why. Ya, he's won 4 Open tourney's in the last three years. And ya, he went to the last two USDGC events and is also rated 997. But still, there are reasons that he did it. There have been others that have played Am when they are >990, but you don't see anybody calling someone out until its a DG prodigy. Maybe he doesn't want to move up because he thinks he's not mature enough yet, or that his mental game, or physical game for that matter, isn't where he wants it to be. What happens if in 3 or 4 years when Jr is in college that it becomes a varsity sport where he chooses to go, but wait, since he's Pro he can't compete. The main reason I don't understand why it matters so much is the fact that most likely, unless one of us makes a trip down to NC to play or he comes up here, WE WON'T EVER GET TO PLAY WITH HIM! And I'm betting that no matter what division he would play, he would kick our a$$es unless your name is Dietrich, Hoffman, or Connor.

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TNT!

By the way Bob, don't you think he's already exploded on the scene? Laughing out loud Laughing out loud

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